November 23, 2009
Login | Register Now

Advertising Age: Your Online Source for Marketing and Media News


More from Ad Age:
Creativity
Ad Age China
Bookstore
Jobs
Ad Age On Campus
Sign up for E-mail Newsletters

Stay on top of the news, sign up for our free newsletters


The Problem With 'Hispanic Insights'

They're Not All That Insightful

Share on Twitter Share on Facebook Submit to Digg Add to Google Share on StumbleUpon Submit to LinkedIn Add to Newsvine Bookmark on Del.icio.us Submit to Reddit

Tommy Thompson Tommy Thompson
All Latinos love music, soccer and food, don't they? These seem to be the "insights" all marketers have been leveraging into their Hispanic advertising approach for years now. The problem is that a lot of non-Hispanic segments also like music, soccer and food, and herein lies the challenge -- what insights should we use to adequately reach Hispanics? The key is to think about ways to reach this target as a segment rather than as a consumer.

At the end of the day, we are forced to debate whether these "Hispanic insights" are really that useful after all, or if they represent erroneous one-size-fits-all generalizations used to characterize the marketplace without any brand ownership. Instead, we should be asking, "Who is the Hispanic segment I am going after?" and "What are the actionable insights that are relevant to them that will inspire action?" The key words being "who" and "actionable."

Is talking about Hispanic insights vs. actionable Hispanic consumer insights just semantics? I think not. This represents a different way of looking at our role as strategists and the difference between being more effective and efficient in your efforts. This, in turn, ensures a higher success rate in connecting with the segment and having an ownable position within the target you are going after. While this probably sounds like Marketing 101, sometimes we get so wrapped up in our own world that we forget that the fundamentals became fundamentals because they work.

This is more important now than ever given the growth the Latino population has seen and the results of a landscape where everyone is trying their hand at marketing with music, soccer and food. Allow me to pick on soccer for a moment -- watch a few hours of advertising and count how many soccer-themed spots you see on TV. And I am not talking about World Cup season or during the airing of soccer matches where contextually it makes sense. It almost seems that soccer is the only way to connect with our segment. What does soccer have to do with life insurance, for example? Are there really no other insights as it relates to Hispanics' need for life insurance that cannot be communicated without soccer?

I grew up in Latin America and was lucky enough to travel extensively throughout to visit family and even today for work, and the reality is that not even close to every Latin American communication piece is soccer-related, so why in the U.S.? Don't misunderstand me, I am not dismissing soccer. After all, it is the most popular sport in the world and loved by a large segment of Hispanic consumers, including yours truly, but it's quickly become just another "Hispanic insight" that we have used to death and has become a go-to theme for our industry.

There exists a responsibility that goes beyond that of agencies to look at the world of consumer insights differently and start evolving the conversation on what makes the target tick as it relates to the particular brand or category. I believe brands need to be open to this new way of thinking and not afraid when its agency partner proposes a different approach that may not fit the "Hispanic insights" that have been sold to them for so long. I invite everyone to start evolving the conversation from "Hispanic insights" to insights that are actionable and on target with the Hispanic segment that the brand is trying to connect with.
30 Comments
Subscribe to comments on: The Problem With 'Hispanic Insights'
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 14, 2008 10:29:03 pm:
Agreed. But who created these insights? And who is perpetuating them? It's tough to sell new insights when so many are still selling the old ones. And clients are still buying them.
  By carlkravetz | SANTA MONICA, CA August 15, 2008 01:10:13 am:
Where have you been for the past ten years? The only people "selling" these insights are pretenders to Hispanic marketing expertise. The true experts -- the membership of the Association of Hispanic Advertising Agencies (AHAA) -- have been discussing and using segmentation for years. And, through its Latino Identity Project, AHAA has put its money where its mouth is -- into quantitative research to help slice and dice the market into the appropriate segment for each advertiser. Come to our LA conference next month and join the 21st century.

Carl Kravetz
Past Chairman
Association of Hispanic Advertising Agencies
  By klonge | Birmingham, MI August 15, 2008 09:25:53 am:
Agreed with Carl. Where have you been my friend? Those topics are topics from the past. I believe that the Hispanic Market has been evolving dramatically during the last 10 years. The insights that you are mentioning exist and in fact they can be found but only if you really know the Hispanic society and understanding its complexity. This is more complex than soccer (by the way we call it futbol) and family, in spite of the relevant importance of both in our culture. In this market we face in daily basis a complex segmentation depending of: level of acculturation, origin, social class, East coast vs West coast... My friendly advise: Accept Carlīs invitation.
  By mheard | Washington, DC August 15, 2008 09:31:45 am:
This kind of one-size-fits-all marketing for minorities has been going on for some time. I like to think of the McDonald's commericials when it comes to stereotypical marketing. The music changes, and the family of course changes, and the announcer's voice changes for each commercial targeted toward whites, blacks, and hispanics.

However, now I'm seeing more commericials with black families that are more mainstream and don't fit some of the stereotypes we once saw a couple of years ago. I think it is only a matter of time when the advertising industry realizes the true motivations of hispanic consumers and they will slowly tailor their messages so that they still appeal to hispanic customers but not resort to obvious stereotypes to get their attention.
  By aureliof | New Canaan, CT August 15, 2008 09:41:05 am:
Speaking of stereotypes, let's not unintentionally perpetuate the soccer myth. However many "Latinos" love "futbol," there are more than a few million Hispanics (Cubans, Dominicans, Puerto Ricans, et al) who fervently follow baseball more than soccer.

"Beisol been berry-berry good to me" -- Chico Escuela
  By LilyW | New York, NY August 15, 2008 12:00:40 pm:
Most insight are not that insightful—the first example being the insight this post is based. I don't think we should even waist time talking about this.
  By LilyW | New York, NY August 15, 2008 12:01:28 pm:
"based on", sorry.
  By Conchita | Brooklyn, NY August 15, 2008 12:15:27 pm:
I studied advertising. I was taught about segmentation before I ever stepped into the "real world" and I was a Mass Comm. student at BU years ago. I'm sure Biz schools taught it and continue to teach this as well.

So this is not about MBA's or Brand managers being ignorant about what true segmentation and consumer "insights" are. It is about not putting ALL their resources to bear when in comes to "minority" markets. They can become lazy and look for cheap shortcuts which is all that a stereotypical "insight" is. Or they can become uninterested since they can't relate to the issues at hand, or for those that have tried and failed, they can become despondent and give up the fight, even if they believe in the opportunity.

On one hand, there is truly a lack of imagination out there, and in the other, a very low level of commitment ($$) to learn their way thru a consumer segment. Many high level GM agencies and companies did not implement solid strategic planing for these multi-cultural audiences when they should have. Many Hispanic agencies were lagging because a) their parent companies were not spending the money to bring the talent to bear in that area and b) they were busy raking it in with what they were doing that they did not invest in the next step early enough. Thus some of these conventional "wisdoms" took hold and are indeed very hard to uproot.

For some Hispanic Marketing veterans that have tried to open eyes and ears for years, this is "deja vu" all over again! You have no idea how many times you go to the client with ideas that have nothing to do with these cheap "insights" only to be turned back, over and over. Frustrating does not even begin to describe it.
  By thernandez | Anaheim, CA August 15, 2008 12:40:49 pm:
It never ceases to amaze me the amount of Spanish written direct mail, Spanish language online ads and Spanish speaking telemarketing calls I receive because of my Spanish surname, despite the fact that I am a fourth generation Mexican-American. I wonder if my fellow marketers receive similar advertising offers written or telemarketing calls in Gaelic, German and Italian? It's my understanding that these market segement folks especially enjoy footbol, beer and family. Think of the marketing opportunities we can create for these audience segments?
  By mdozier | LONG BEACH, CA August 15, 2008 02:01:14 pm:
The problem is that the search for Hispanic consumer "insights" has turned in to a search for the holy grail. Reputable agencies, even those that belong to AHAA, end up using the standard Hispanic cultural cliche because they are incapable of figuring out that sometimes you don't need an insight to create good advertising. Those agencies hammer Hispanic "insights" into their creative product. Just glance through people en espanol, or watch univision for 1/2hr and reflect on what you see. Look at the best advertising in the world, Hispanic or not, and you'll see that is tied to an idea, which may or may not have a brand, product or consumer insight.
  By LAURI | SEATTLE, WA August 15, 2008 02:49:04 pm:
Thanks for this great discussion! I'm reading here a lot of the things we've been talking about for years - that there exist these stereotypes that 1) are not fresh, 2) may not even resonate with the actual target, and 3) our clients are *expecting* us to provide them!

The very best strategy and creative will have a direct link to the product and its emotional benefits, no matter what audience you're targeting.

The unfortunate truth is many companies do not budget for research, which is key to understanding whom exactly WITHIN the Hispanic market you should be targeting, and how.

Nor do companies budget the resources (namely time and money) to integrate the Hispanic campaign with their general market efforts. Instead, we find that most companies see Hispanic marketing as an afterthought ("Let's go ahead and translate this").

The latest Census data shows that in Washington State's King County (Seattle), the Hispanic population has seen the fastest growth among populations here, at 44 percent since 2000 (versus Asians' 29 percent and non-Hispanic white 0.2 percent)! It's only a matter of time before local companies realize that the Hispanic market nationally and even here in this emerging market deserves more than an "afterthought" approach. And the more our Hispanic communities grow, hopefully the more we'll learn first-hand that, shoot, they are not a homogenous bunch after all! Some do like soccer, but lots enjoy Nascar or even (gasp) American football!

I think it's important that marketers understand these points--and that they don't take what they hear from the media or even their agencies for granted, but that they conduct the necessary research to learn how to best embrace the segment in relation to their particular brand or product.

Of course, speaking as the principal and founder of Conexión Marketing (a Hispanic marketing firm) I want my clients to trust the work we do on their behalf. However, we also try to educate our clients that our solutions may not be the ones they expect. Given the opportunity to truly create a campaign to embrace their particular targeted consumer (versus "Hispanisizing" their general market creative), it will always be fresh and relevant. And then they can see for themselves the effectiveness of that fresh creative versus their competitors' translated campaign -- through research, and through bottom-line results.

Lauri Jordana, www.conexion-marketing.com
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 15, 2008 03:30:30 pm:
The comments from Carl Kravetz and pablo calonge are somewhat peculiar. Anyone on this thread—or reading it—with experience in minority-targeted advertising understands exactly where Tommy Thompson is coming from. Messrs Kravetz and calonge should peruse the top five monthly Hispanic publications. Bet you'll find at least one soccer ad per month—guaranteed. The other "insights" include telenovelas, recording artists and some form of dancing (usually salsa). Or if you have the budget, anyone associated with Ugly Betty. Are all the people responsible for these ads "pretenders" per Mr. Kravetz's declaration? If so, the pretenders might outnumber the non-pretenders. In June, Adweek presented a "Hispanic Marketing Report" and the focus was, you guessed it, Fútbol! I don't mean to disrespect the commentators, but let's be honest. This is a continuing challenge, and the responsibility for change resides with all the players—from agencies to clients to consumers.
  By lauramartinezruiz | New York city, NY August 15, 2008 03:50:07 pm:
Hi everyone. I felt compelled to join in this fascinating discussion, especially after seeing these two executions for Kleenex... Thoughts?



http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3040/2326561115_cac04d65e2_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3193/2326561965_21ef150ccf_o.jpg

  By luis.cabrera | Mexico City August 15, 2008 04:21:53 pm:
I agree, this sounds pretty much like Marketing 101, and there's not only one entity to blame. Here's a thought:

Perhaps agencies can do better at digesting the research and transforming it into actionable intelligence; consumers are definitely telling a story, we just need to listen carefully. One of the things I find fascinating about this market is that US Latinos over index pretty much in everything (hey, I just found that
  By mdozier | LONG BEACH, CA August 15, 2008 04:44:10 pm:
Ms. Laura Martinez; In defense of the party responsible for doing the Spanish language adaptation, the sport they're showing is not futbol/soccer, otherwise the guy would have futbol/soccer shoes vs. running shoes, and short pants. How uncultured...
Ms. Lily W: you also wrote "waist", when you should've written "waste". No soup for you.
  By LilyW | New York, NY August 15, 2008 04:55:36 pm:
@Michael: Yes, saw it when it was too late. My most sincere apologies. I'm still blushing and I promise to peruse my English for dummies book again tonight as well as never press the publish button too fast (hmmm... it may be a better idea not to leave comments altogether.) Have a nice day ;-)
@Laura: two images say more than a hundred posts. Good one.
  By eturegano@alpunto.com | August 15, 2008 11:17:11 pm:
good discussion all - and the question is, would it be much diffeent for general market advertising? are we just discussing among ourselves in a little box?
E Turegano
Orange, CA
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 17, 2008 11:13:12 pm:
Adweek published another report on Hispanic marketing last week. Here's a key excerpt:

"For instance, a spot for Miller Lite created by Lopez Negrete uses futbol (soccer) as its thematic template, drawing on the sport's mythic popularity in Latin America to serve as a kind of cultural talisman for the marketing. The 30-second spot was developed for Hispanic audiences in the U.S., but the border-transcendent popularity of soccer was such that the commercial was easily adapted into 20-second slots for Mexican TV."

Messrs Kravetz and calonge, welcome to the 21st century.

Read the full story here.

http://www.adweek.com/aw/content_display/special-reports/other-reports/e3i47809d21d2ac68fb58ef380dafdab58e?pn=2

P.S. E Turegano, if this were general market advertising, the conversation would be VERY different.
  By thecreativexchange | DALLAS, TX August 18, 2008 10:23:01 am:
Tommy, you are right on. For the longest time, marketing to the U.S. Hispanic consumer has shown a very narrow view of an exciting, diverse and unique culture. There is no question that there is a tremendous need on the part of marketers to start playing 'catch-up' with this ever-evolving consumer group, recognizing that a blanket approach, such as the ever-present soccer theme, is so twentieth century. This is a new era, where we are seeing the evolution of new Hispanic subgroups that have truly unique characteristics and demand to be addressed in specific ways. It's time for us to roll up our sleeves and work hard to study, understand and conform to this evolution. If you are not on board with this, you are truly history.
  By rjluke | Peora, AZ August 18, 2008 01:04:04 pm:
Well ladies and gentlemen, the reaility is that stereotypes exist for a reason. So while there may be 30% of the market that doesn't fit the stereotype, there still is 70% that does! So if you want to catch the biggest share who and how do you market?... I think we all know the answer. But... I like where this is going, I think the evolution of Hispanic marketing is coming around and eventually the lines will be blurred completely.

Ryan SLC UT
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 18, 2008 11:27:41 pm:
Ryan Luke,

I agree that stereotypes exist for a reason. But I'm not sure you and I would agree on the reasons. Regardless, the question here is, "Why do stereotypes exist in advertising?" Pretty sure we wouldn't agree on the reasons behind that question either. Cheers.
  By rjluke | Peora, AZ August 19, 2008 07:02:04 pm:
Mr. Jones from Chicago,

I'm sure we don't want to get into that. Regardless, I'm just stating that if you go south of the border and look at advertising there, you'll see similar to what you see here. Chicken or the egg with that. Seems to be working for many so something has to be right with it. Again, I'm glad to see lines blurring but if I were to put my money on it, it would be with the traditional messages mentioned in the articles. Having spent a lot of time in Latin American Countries, I feel like I have a good feel for what they are about.
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 19, 2008 07:31:06 pm:
Ryan Luke,

Your presumption (I think) is that the advertising south of the border is effective and/or the messages should cross borders with no problem. Do you think all UK advertising will work in the U.S. too? I'm wondering if you have experience producing work for Hispanic audiences. The soccer ads are not always being brought to the clients by the agencies; rather, the clients are demanding to see work with overt "cultural cues"—whether the cues are relevant to the product/message or not. You will never see a creative presentation for a general market agency where the client says, "What's White about that idea? Can we please show someone bowling or polka dancing?" For general market agencies, the only requirement is making the product appealing to the audience. For minority agencies, it's about integrating borrowed interest and/or stereotypes positioned as "insights."
  By cdobles | Brooklyn, NY August 20, 2008 11:13:48 am:
General market advertising is full of stereotypes as well. In fact most of what you see is stereotypical.
  By rjluke | Peora, AZ August 20, 2008 04:23:26 pm:
;) ...Well, trailblaze a new path for us to follow! I'm waiting to jump on board!
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 20, 2008 05:01:07 pm:
True, Cristian. But the general market stereotypes are usually not borrowed interest. If you are using stereotypes in a manner relevant to the message, okay. On the other hand, if you're using stereotypes in order to make a message more Hispanic or Black or Asian, then you're running into trouble—not to mention potentially making clients think something like soccer is mandatory to reaching an audience. Additionally, stereotypes based on race and ethnicity have plenty of political baggage attached, which is not so much the case with general market stereotypes. The stereotypes we see in minority ads were not intended to be stereotypes. That is, in the beginning, agencies were rightly seeking to present imagery unique and relevant to underrepresented audiences. But the next thing you know, every advertiser is telling their shops, "Bring me a Hispanic Soccer Player/Black Basketball Player/Asian Laundromat Owner too." And many of these requests, at least on some level, are inspired by a client's personal viewpoint on what a minority should be. And let's not forget the people (on client and agency sides) who fear that failing to present blatant "cultural cues " might lead people to believe the segment doesn't require unique messages. To be honest, I'm not in agreement with Thompson that these things are "insights." When used in the context Thompson is describing, it's just racial/ethnic borrowed interest. Or worse. In a nutshell, this is a complex situation, with no one reason to blame or one solution to apply. At the same time, to say it's no longer happening is somewhat silly too, Messrs Kravetz and calonge.

P.S., Ryan Luke, the professionals are definitely striving to be trailblazers. But it's tough to do without financial and emotional support from clients. That is, the clients must actively want to do it—and finance it and demand it—versus simply settling for soccer. Or fútbol.
  By cdobles | Brooklyn, NY August 25, 2008 09:53:48 am:
Jack, what does Weight Watchers commercial for women have to do with professional football? What does golf have to do with Tacos? Everyday I sit an d watch what is on TV. Every day I say to myself., What the...? watching commercials that make absolutely no sense and are all pure borrowed interest. That's on general market TV by the way, not Hispanic TV or BET.

It amazes me how we are intent in putting our own work down and bashing what we do when we are doing exactly the same than the general market does. If you watch TV on all channels you will notice that the quantity of mediocre, lame and stereotypical work in the general market is at par and if not worse than the commercials on Hispanic TV.
  By JackJones | Chicago, IL August 25, 2008 10:44:04 am:
Cristian,

First, I do not dispute there is a great deal of bad advertising coming from the general market. No market has the lead in that category. However, we should never be satisfied thinking our work is no worse than the sea of mediocrity out there, whether general market or not.

Additionally, believe it or not, I'm not seeking to bash work. As the creators of advertising, we all have certain responsibilities and obligations.

We have a responsibility to create work that is relevant to the brand and relevant to the target audience. From a creative standpoint, we also have to break through the clutter and present unique and fresh messages that distinguish brands.

I would take things a step further and say that ad people targeting minority audiences have even more obligations. We also have a responsibility to present our audiences in respectful and real ways that don't perpetuate the negative stereotypes the media can often present. This is not a new notion. Many multicultural firms were launched because visionaries saw an opportunity to connect with underrepresented audiences and present images that would show the audiences in a new light—a more authentic light than the limited media images portray.

Soccer—or fútbol—is really only a symbol that we've overblown in this thread. No one disputes that the sport is popular with Hispanic audiences. And it's likely that some of the fútbol-related ads and events have drawn positive responses. But as creatives, we also must invent fresher ways to integrate it—and more importantly, we need to find/create other "cultural cues" that will be relevant, motivating and breakthrough.

The truth is, we are no different than general market agencies. But let's aspire to stand on the same level as the best general market agencies, not the ordinary and awful ones. We must create original ideas. That's going to be tough to accomplish if we continue to draw on the same insights over and over.

Cheers.
  By korfel | CRAWFORDVILLE, FL September 11, 2008 10:30:47 am:
Interesting article. Unfortunately it refers to insights as something they ARE NOT. It is not an insight to know that Hispanics love their families, or that they enjoy music, or soccer. An insight to be an insight must be a realization about something deep in the consumer's mind or in his/her culture that will help connect with him/her at a deeper level. That is what a consumer insight is, not a superficial common place. That is why brands that become icons in the Hispanic market do market research that reveals "insights" that others do not know about. That gives them an edge. Understanding an undercurrent of resentment, or a profound feeling of nostalgia registered in the core of consumers' minds can help position a brand as a symbol that connects with the consumer in a non-obvious way. For example, knowing that Hispanics, particularly recent immigrants, have had their self-esteem hurt by the so-called immigration debate may be an insight. That is, if this feeling is understood and turned around by a brand to elevate the self-esteem of these hard working immigrants.
The book "Hispanic Marketing: A Cultural Perspective" provides many examples of insights that have helped brands create a unique connection with Hispanic consumers.
Also you may want to visit my blog http://felipekorzenny.blogspot.com to see additional examples.

I really hope the conversation moves to a higher level.



Stay on top of the news and stay ahead of the game—sign up for e-mail newsletters now!



Advertising Age: Your Online Source for Marketing and Media News