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Comcast Must Die
Seeking Ideas for a Consumer Jihad
Part 1 / Part 2 / Part 3 / Part 4HELL ON EARTH, Md. (Sept. 9, 2007) -- Comcast must die.
-- Mid-August. Triple Play (TV, phone, broadband) service ordered. Phone ported from Verizon. 11-2 p.m. installation window set for Sunday, August 28th.
-- August 28. Installer does not show up at 11. Or 12. Or 1. Or 2. Or 3. Or 4. Or 5. After a call to customer service and 15 minutes on hold, Comcast promises to investigate and call back. Comcast does not call back. In second subsequent call, Comcast promises to call back to reschedule. Three calls in all. Total time on hold: 40 minutes. Nobody ever calls back. Total time waiting for installer: 6 1/2 hours. Sunday squandered.
-- August 29. On 4th call to customer service, Comcast reschedules installation for Sunday, September 9, between 8 and 11 a.m.
-- September 9. Installer shows up on time at 9 a.m. At 12:30, installer leaves to get a drill bit from a nearby service tech's truck. Five hours later, he is still missing. He has failed to connect one TV, and 2 of 4 phones do not operate. He has also cut off half of existing DirecTV service.
-- Comcast customer service asks for "a quick moment" to investigate. Fifteen minutes later, they return to ask for "one more moment." I am on hold for another 32 minutes. During that, I use another line to call customer service. I ask for a supervisor. I am not permitted to speak to one. I am told somebody will call me back. Nobody calls back. Customer service operator on first line takes me off hold in minute 50 to tell me a tech is on the way. I tell her I have been on hold for a total of 48 minutes. She says I haven't been. I ask for a supervisor. I am told I'm not permitted to speak to one. One will call me back. Nobody calls. I miss a 4:30 p.m. appointment. I have a dinner commitment at 6:30 p.m. At 5:40 the installer shows up. I am leaving the house in 34 minutes.
-- Incredibly, Comcast calls to ask if he showed up. I learn that the installer has lied and told his boss my job was finished when he left. I say he arrived after a 4 hour and 10 minute disappearance, but he can't finish the job in time. I ask to have the job rescheduled. No, I can't. She can only make sure he's arrived. She can't reschedule. I beg. I plead. I am placed on hold.
-- Finally, a supervisor gets on the line. Her name is Carol Webb. She is the first Comcast employee to volunteer an apology. "I am dumbfounded by what has happened to you," she says. She says first thing in the morning she'll make everything right. She sounds sincere. But mark me down as skeptical.
In any event, the damage has been done. They have ruined two weekends and screwed up half of my telecom services. I will shake them down for as much free service as I can get, then drop them at the first opportunity. And they deserve it. They deserve much worse.
Is this company so frantic to seize market share on voice and broadband that it is willing to disrupt customers' lives, fail to appear, repeatedly lie to them, walk out on them and then treat the customer as if he or she is a nuisance?
Well, we shall see. This is the Listenomics age. We will not take it quietly.
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Bennett Zucker
Patricio Cavalli
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Comcast and their ilk would seem to have taken to heart (assuming they have one) the you'll-get-nothing-and-like-it approach first popularized by banks a few years back. Of course, as any smart drug dealer will tell you, when you've got something people think they need, you don't have to be nice about providing it.
Jill Tanenbaum, Bethesda, Maryland
There is no doubt that Comcast is a serial abuser of its customer's time of the worst kind, much like the much maligned Home Depot, only worst. Given the depth and pervasiveness of this abuse one can only assume it is an intentional tactic to increase profits at the expense of customers.
Perhaps if the noise gets loud enough, they'll run Brian out on a rail much like Bob at Home Depot. Of course, he'll probably be a much richer wiesel like Bob, even given the massive amount of abuse afflicted on customers.
Bob Babcock- Atlanta, GA
I have learned my lesson and will not bundle all my services with one company to prevent digital isolation when something goes wrong.
So I left the country and moved to Germany -- the land of precision and efficiency. Right. T Mobile, called TCOM here must have taken the US playbook but layered it with rules, lots and lots of rules. Install lead times is months and when questioned about why "zeese are zee rules!" If you call 'customer service' you are charged 13 cents per minute including wait time. How is that for rules! As long as there are monopolistic providers you will find basically the same crappy situation no matter where you live.
As the time grew closer to their buy-out from TimeWarner, the service deteriorated. Once the buy-out was completed, and after numerous ads telling me I was going to love TimeWarner, I found that out of all the carriers I've had over the past 20 years, TimeWarner was perhaps the pitifully worst. After 1 year I bailed (although I still have their internet service at a reduced price). We're totally happy with DIRECTV, - although it is not without its problems - but here's the point:
The service providers (all of them) spend most of their money buying out other providers. Each wants to dominate everything you bring into your home - phone, TV and internet service. instead of spending money on infrastructure to provide a higher quality product, they spend it on interest. As consumers we are getting more choices, which ultimately will be the reason things improve. Until then, no matter who the provider is, I'm afraid we'll get more of the same type of customer service that is described in this example. Come on FCC, Congress and other lame-o's - deregulate the industry, get you fat butts out of their business and allow the free market to develop competitive and quality products.
WD Santa Clarita, CA
ke www.cword.org
I wrote an angry letter to the President of TWC two weeks ago, with no response, and now I am adding to the pile of unsatisfied customers.
Whatever happened to Good (or even tolerable) Customer Service?!?!
Where possible, I have "fired" Comcast. But there are not a lot of options.
If you want results and real customer service, you have to stop dealing with their "customer service", which 9 times out of 10 is contracted out to a third party. The reason why you keep getting the run around, is that the technicians are also contracted third party companies, but not the same companies as customer service.
If you want results, go to the top. Do not write to them, but call BRIAN ROBERTS, CEO / CHAIRMAN. Call corporate headquarters at 215-665-1700 - corporate HQ is in Philadelphia, PA. I did this in Dallas, and while I did not obviously speak with Brian, I did reach an executive assistant in the executive offices who then did all the phone calling and facilitating to solve my problem.
If that doesn't help, then be patient. It is only a matter of time before cable is an outdate technology. I was so happy to hear about AppleTV, as it is the first foray into a new delivery method for television content.
If you do find a way to rally the troops, I have been thinking for a year about taking out an ad in the NY Times or the Wall Street Journal, and writing a "Dear Brian" letter, explaining why I have not only fired Comcast, but why I will never invest a dime in their stock.
http://adaged.blogspot.com/2007/06/do-something-dumb.html
Eventually, some new ISP will be to Comcast, Verizon, AT&T what Toyota and Honda are to Ford and GM. As consumers we should not accept this service. Even if we have to keep buying it. WOM is powerful and if enough people say something sucks, eventually Virgin or Google will come in with an alternative.
I have never had any experience close to this from Time Warner NYC.
Their interface is incredibly inferior to TWC as well. And they cost more.
- Choose a tag -- something easy ("Comcast Service") -- and suggest folks tag their own blog posts and videos with same. Make sure there's a subcategory area for it in Technorati. Flickr photos of any damage done in walls. YouTube videos, with responses. Etc.
- Form a Comcast Service group in Facebook. Add a voting application.
- Send this post to equity analysts who follow Comcast.
- Start a "dollar a minute rebate" campaign for every minute someone's kept on hold by customer service. Also have free month of service added for every day a tech doesn't show up during the appointed hours.
Says it all, really.
Also, cancelling is a nightmare. Don't dare misplace the receiver set or you'll owe Comcast an outrageous figure just short of $850. Don't forget the remote - that's another $45. May God have mercy on your wallet if you have multiple receivers.
Installation, now that was pleasant for me. In Boston I received an installation appointment scheduled a full 2.5 weeks away. The wait was a bit torturous but the installation person was courteous enough to call my cell early in the day to notify me about when he'd be showing up during the scheduled 3 hour time block. He promptly did the job and I'll add - was pretty good looking. I know that tale belongs on "Ripley's believe it or not" given Comcast's track record but its true!
At our house, we've turned their word "comcastic" into the household word for crap/nonworking/ineffective/useless/shitty/etc.
http://www.indeed.com/forum/cmp/Comcast/05390c183c137e1c757d4a?p=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3l5O5xWlvo
I was an early TIVO user and advocate, some would say fanatic. I had three TIVO boxes and only gave them up when I switched to HD TV's. They degraded the signal so much the other benefits were not worth it. So I switched to the Comcast DVR. Same as TIVO, right? Not even close. Although it did record in HD, the interface was clumsy, I never saw the end of a live event, and I was constantly missing programs I thought I had recorded. Comcast makes a bad DVR.
Then I saw a review of the new TIVO HD. I read everything I could, and then called TIVO to see if it worked with Comcast. "Absolutely", they said. It works great with Comcast. You need to get two "cable cards". Uh-oh. ..I called Comcast to get the cable cards and the operator said they did not work with TIVO. "Are you sure?" I asked. "TIVO told me they did work." So back to TIVO. "Oh, you need to talk to a supervisor. The best way is for the three of us to get on the phone together. I would be happy to set up that call if you would like." So I got on a three-way call between two companies that hate each other and me. Very strange.
After some coaxing by the TIVO rep, the Comcast supervisor admitted that the cable cards did indeed work with TIVO, but we needed to set up a service call to get them installed. Now, let me tell about a different experience I have had with Comcast repair and installation technicians. They ALWAYS show up on time at my house. I think it's because they know exactly where I live. They have been to my house nine times; no kidding, nine times. There's the inside the house guy who never talks to the outside the house guy. The cable guy, the internet guy, the phone guy.... And nobody talks to anyone else. They keep coming back to fix stuff the other guy messed up.
Back to TIVO. On the allotted day, at roughly the allotted time my repair technician, a guy with whom I am on a first name basis, arrives at the house. His greeting to me was: "I hate cable cards, they never work." "Why do you want TIVO?" "The Comcast DVR is great.""This will never work.""Did you know you can't get a program guide with cable cards?" I said, "Hi Joe, let's give it a try." Comcast must LOVE this guy, I'll bet he's employee of the month.
Installation of cable cards involves plugging the cards into two slots in TIVO, then calling a super-secret number and reading a bunch of numbers to the rep on the other end of the phone.After a lot of banter between the cable guy and the rep, with the cable guy repeating: "This is never going to work", I started seeing channels appear on the TV. Once that happened, the cable guy was out of my house like a circus clown shot out of cannon. His last words were: "Good luck with that mess."
Man I love TIVO. I'm getting all my shows, never miss the end of a live event and there is even a bunch of new stuff that comes over the internet. TIVO is back, and it's better than ever.
The really unfortunate part is what Comcast has done to poor TIVO. Here's a company that should own the world, but can't get out of its own way from a marketing standpoint. I know as a media guy I'm supposed to hate TIVO, but have you seen the new internet stuff you can do? It's really cool.
So, as an end to the story, my cable bill is all screwed up with these people coming to the house all the time. I'm not surprised they can't get it right. My wife called to straighten out the bill and at the end of the conversation she asked the rep if she had heard of TIVO. "Yes", she said, "That's for satellite."
The post near the top of this list of posts really says it all --- the one from one Amanda Johnson, of Pasadena, MD. Even if it is a fake, it might as well not be. I hope Comcast found her and fired her, if she is for real. She probably got a promotion though!
Who can blame the lady described in the Wash Post article a few months back:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101702359.html
Note the reference to the Advertising Age article, too.
Note also: YouTube video, re Comcast guy who came to a customer's home and FELL ASLEEP on her couch, and still did not complete the work. It made national news.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvVp7b5gzqU
Oh, by the way, based on what neighbors here have experienced when ditching Comcast, if you decide to disconnect the service, you may also face hassles, like the person who posted this, at YouTube (currently on page 2 of comments associated with that video). . . :
"You can't blame him, because COMCAST does everything extremely SLOW. Their service is real bad. I disconnect the service 2 months ago, continue receive the accumulate bill from them until now, I called many times tried to correct it. They said it will take "A WHILE" for a technician to go out there to disconnect it. Last week I received a bill from a collection agency even after I paid the actual final prorate bill to them. "
Here's one more:
http://wereindebt.com/day-429-comcas...ice-nightmare/
I could go on and on about friend's and neighbors' poor customer-service experiences, too, but will not, for the sake of brevity. (Oops. too late for that! ha ha.)
Seriously, you might want to look at other options, if there even ARE any where you live. Don't fall for Comcast's massive (and occasionally clever) ad campaign.
Ms. Johnson should rethink her career choice. I work as a Customer Service Supervisor at a very large mailing organization and I handle customer complaints every day. Even if the customer is at fault or doesn't understand something, I still politely explain everything to them. Sure, they screw up sometimes and many times I have to fix their errors. I still am very patient and happy to help them anyway and I let them know it. That is what I'm being paid for ! Perhaps COMCAST should invest in training for their customer service staff and supervisors, it is apparent that it is desperately needed.
My Comcast cable goes out every 3 weeks - like clockwork. I get the following message:
ONE MOMENT PLEASE, THE CHANNEL WILL BE AVAILABLE SHORTLY
This has been going on since January 2008. It is now early May 2008.
When I go into the Main Menu -> Cable Setup -> Display, it shows Disconnected - Not Connected. I tried to explain this to Comcast and was told my cable is out because the box was physically disconnected and I needed to re-connect the box. What ?!?! If the box was disconnected, how am I able to go inside the Cable Main Menu and read this to them ?? This proved that Comcast knows NOTHING about their equipment nor how it's works.
I have called Comcast easily over a dozen times and what do/did I get:
1) Hung-up on.
2) Techs no-call, no-show.
3) Lied to - Repeatedly by Comcast about the scheduled day/time when the tech was "suppose" to arrive. This part is really really bad and apparently legendary. Countless times I was told that a tech will to arrive between 8 & noon or between 1 & 5PM and like an idiot, I waited - and waited - and waited - and waited. Called Comcast, like every hour to check on my scheduled appointment: no clue, I mean totally clueless - hugh waste of time. I was told they have no control over dispatches. And yet, you have to contact them to schedule a dispatch. What the HELL !?!?
4) Techs, if and/or when they do show up, have absolutely no clue on what is the problem and apparently why they were dispatched - I guess they are told to just show up.
5) And most importantly, tech not fixing the problem as my cable went out Tuesday, May 06 and is still out.
The few and I do mean few techs that did show up told me the following:
the problem is with the signal - the problem is not with the signal - the problem is outside - the problem is inside - when this happens, to call Comcast and have them send an INT signal to the boxes. This is like wiping out and re-sending the cable box configs any Favorite Cable Channels settings are gone. But you have to beg and plead with Comcast to do this and this is a TEMPORARY FIX. A few weeks later, cable goes out.
Another tech told me directly to -my -face to call Comcast and cancel the service as this would get their attention to fix the problem. I could not believe a Comcast tech was telling me to do this.
At others times I was told that the tech would come out and replace both HD cable boxes. Techs, again the few that did show up, were empty-handed - no replacement cable boxes. Techs did not know what I was talking about when I asked where were the new boxes. Comcast told me that they were sending out a tech to replace the boxes. Their reply was they were not sent to replace anything - and then asked, once again, "what is the problem ??" It is as if for the past 5 months, I have been talking to an empty phone in an empty room. Again, tech shows up with no clue on the reason they were dispatched - they just show up - and even that's a maybe - they may show up or they may not. No one knows.
I chatted via their chatroom last night about this 5 month old trouble to Francis. This one stated that their Engineering Department is aware of the "issue" and are working on it right now. Sure they are !!!! When asked was exactly was the "issue", she replied I needed to contact some local office, as she " could not " tell me directly. I again pressed abouth this mysterious " issue ", only to be told information about it cannot be given out. Huh ??? I replied that it sounds like they already knew there was some kind of trouble and failed to notify the customer. Also, this " issue " is only affecting me. I live in a building with 90+ units, yet this " issue " is only affecting me - only ME. This was sounding like some kind of BS, big time.
I have been in the customer support field for over 10 years with many different companies and have NEVER seen such BAD service as Comcast. It is as if they are deaf, dumb and blind to the ability of providing SERVICE to
their CUSTOMER. Isn't that what they are suppose to do ?? Customer Service means giving Service to the Customer.
Where is the follow-up call to the customer to confirm that they are back up and working ?? Where is the call to the customer to let them know the tech is running a little late ?? Or cannot make the scheduled appointment ?? Why do I, the customer have to call the provider to find out what is going on ?? Common courtesy dictates a call TO the customer would be nice, instead of a pissed-off call FROM the customer.
What is needed is another cable provider in Chicago. I will take ANYONE/ANYTHING over Comcast, I wish I could get satellite service, but I live in a condo that faces East. For satellite service, like Direct TV, I need to have an unobstructed view of the southwest sky.
Apparently I am left with no choice but to cancel service as the cable goes out at will with no fix and no cares/concerns from Comcast. None at all.
I pray to God in Heaven to please let Verizon FIOS, RCN, WOW-Wide Open West, or ANYONE get in my area.
and provide cable television service - and FAST !!!
Now about comcast:
I have a screenshot of being number 121 in the queue to chat with an online representative:
http://www.igottheconch.com/index.php?title=Comcast#Comcast_customer_service
Tonight I was on hold with comcast 29 minutes 30 seconds before the battery on my phone went dead.
The previous call when I tried to call I was on hold for over 20 minutes.
Second off, many of the customers need to realize that almost every rep there is more than happy to help you when we pick up the phone but once you start screaming at up, demanding to speak to someone above us before we even know whats going on, dont expect me to bend over backwards for you, I am paid to help you, not take abuse. If you want to complain about the techs then do it, write a letter, make sure that you also compliment the times things are done right so that we can weed out idiots like the above poster.
If you want help with your service, a promotion, or whatever, ask clearly and give us the time we need. We cant help it if the help desk takes 20 mins to answer, or the time you where on hold, but we WILL generally help you in anyway we can. Bear in mind for every 1 of you there are 100 people with no problem at all. I agree that a 99% happy rate is not enough for a service that these days can be a life line to people, I agree about staying away from the phone service if you have ever had other service problems or are in a smaller city.
I guess in the end, understand the idiot above is not like most of us, and that you can catch alot more fly with honey!
I appreciate that you work for Comcast and admire you for your pride in your company, but I am sorry... in the last 6 months the ability for your company to provide decent service has went completely down the tube. In this same period 8 families that I know are in the same position we are relative to terrible service. The people on the phone are very nice... no question. The technicians are reasonably nice as well... it's just that they all have different ideas of what is wrong and in reality none of them know what is wrong. It's like trial and error. Their favorite way to fix things is to send a reset signal. Their promises are never followed up on. We literally have had to call Comcast 12 times in the last few weeks because something doesn't work right. One weekend, we called them 3 times.
I really wish there was a cable alternative in the area. Comcast just continues to get bigger and bigger and they get worse and worse. Sorry to say but they are terrible.
We are going to send letters to the BBB and any other federal agency that oversees this industry ... sending letters to Comcast does no good. No one really cares. It's a shame that COX is not in our service area.
Terrible terrible terrible company, decent people, lousey product service and they can not continue to deliver such rediculous service and get away with it for long.