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The Coming End of YouTube, Twitter and Facebook Socialism

Thank God for Tech Moguls Who Redistribute VC Wealth So We Can Cybersocialize Freely. For Now, That Is.

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Twitter founders Ev Williams and Biz Stone should thank God it was just a cardinal, and not the pope.

Last week, according to the Times of London, Cardinal Sean Brady of Ireland told the country's Catholics to "Make someone the gift of a prayer through text, Twitter or e-mail every day. Such a sea of prayer is sure to strengthen our sense of solidarity with one another."

LET US PRAY: Cardinal Sean Brady wants you to tweet for Jesus.
Niall Carson
LET US PRAY: Cardinal Sean Brady wants you to tweet for Jesus.
Oh, my. That's a nice sentiment, but Twitter really doesn't need more users around the world tweeting in ways that can never be monetized. Ireland's got just 4 million Catholics, but the Vatican counts more than a billion baptized Catholics worldwide. If the pope endorsed tweeting prayer, Twitter could be out of business by the end of the year! The 3-year-old company, remember, still lacks a revenue model and just burns through more venture capital every time a new user signs up. (Fortunately, given how retro-conservative Pope Benedict is, he seems more likely to issue a papal encyclical condemning Twitter. We all know it's more likely to enable sin -- pride! sloth! -- than piety.)

It's telling that Cardinal Brady grouped Twitter with texting and e-mail. The former, of course, is a paid service and a massive profit center for cellular carriers around the world, and the latter you also pay for, albeit indirectly, as a service bundled with your monthly internet access or by allowing yourself to be subjected to advertising. (As a Gmail user, I decided to see what would come up when I e-mailed myself the Lord's Prayer. The ads Google served included ones for BeliefNet and Don Helin's paperback pulp thriller "Thy Kingdom Come." Ka-ching!) But when it comes to Twitter, we not only don't pay, but we all take it for granted that somebody's going to keep footing the bill for the rapidly expanding server farms needed to process and store zillions of tweets per minute.

It's sweet, really, that venture capitalists have ponied up millions so that we can all keep tweeting. It's also more than a bit scary. Because more and more of us are increasingly addicted not only to Twitter, but to other services that lack workable business models. What happens if the "dealers" who feed our habits disappear? (It's been known to happen. Last week, for instance, Yahoo announced it was shutting down last century's hot social-networking-esque service, GeoCities, for which it paid $3.5 billion in 1999.)

I've been thinking about all this a lot since I wrote, a few weeks ago, about how Susan Boyle has been on what I called the "Google Dole" -- her fame fueled in a nonsensically nonprofit manner by Google's YouTube unit, which hemorrhages cash serving up too much video with nowhere near enough advertising support. (I'll again refer you to Benjamin Wayne's Silicon Alley Insider piece, "YouTube is Doomed," which deconstructed the recent Credit Suisse report that puts YouTube's estimated 2009 losses at nearly half a billion dollars.) You'd think a clip of Boyle singing a song from "Les Misérables," one of the most popular musicals of all time, on one of the most popular TV shows in the world would be semi-monetizable. (I mean, geez, at the very least stick a pop-up overlay on that video with a link to the "Les Miz" soundtrack on iTunes.) But no. Adam Ostrow at Mashable further proved my point with his piece, "Susan Boyle Video Profits: $0," which explained that disagreement between "Britain's Got Talent" owner ITV and YouTube over pre-roll vs. overlays prevented ad placements in Boyle's YouTube streams.

And then last week The New York Times reported about the hazards of international expansion for the likes of Facebook. Getting million of new users in the Third World, it turns out, really sucks, because Facebook will never really be able to meaningfully monetize those eyeballs. It's tons of cash out (bandwidth, data storage, personnel) with little hope of cash in.

Weirdly, some of the management at these companies don't even seem to be trying that hard to make money -- a consequence, perhaps, of still being awash in millions of dollars of VC money ("venture charity," as I like to call it). In fact, Abbey Klassen, Ad Age's digital editor, tells me that she once heard a Facebook exec joke to an agency exec, "Didn't you know we're a nonprofit?"

I'll go one step further: They're socialists! OK, yes, I'm using the dumbed-down definition of socialism championed by numbskulls like Sarah Palin, but regardless of the finer points of economic theory, you've got to admit that at some level the boys at Facebook, YouTube and Twitter are actively choosing to redistribute the wealth. They're taking money from venture capitalists and deploying it so that millions of people far beyond Silicon Valley can get something for nothing. Entertainment, information, and self-marketing opportunities, mostly.

And, oh yeah, a sense of "connectedness" -- cyber companionship -- which makes this particular era of VC-wealth distribution all the more ... touching. (Let's all be friends -- on someone else's dime! Let's all be perpetually jacked into the hyper-insta-now global hivemind of human consciousness -- for free!)

I am so appreciative. Seriously. I love YouTube, I've made some interesting connections through Facebook, and I enjoy Twittering. (Last week, for instance, I tweeted about an astonishing bit of information I came across in Britain's Daily Telegraph: YouTube "reportedly uses as much bandwidth as the entire internet took up in 2000.")

But I also know it can't go on like this. The digital Robin Hoods can't keep redistributing the wealth forever, because eventually the wealth runs out. Investors get sick of propping up private ventures that don't have viable business models, and shareholders of public companies, like Google, get cranky about flushing cash down the drain.

So what can we do? Not much, I suppose, other than enjoy it while it lasts -- and maybe twitter a prayer for VCs everywhere.

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Simon Dumenco is the "Media Guy" media columnist for Advertising Age. You can follow him on Twitter @simondumenco


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  By miconian | New York, NY May 4, 2009 11:03:40 am:
Either that, or they'll come up additional with ways to monetize the content.
  By ahoving | Westport, CT May 4, 2009 11:15:43 am:
these sites could turn the meter on tomorrow!
Allan Hoving
PayCheckr.com
  By M | NY, NY May 4, 2009 11:53:07 am:
Best business article I've read on this Social Media topic in a long while.

Not sure why an aggressive, consolidated subscription model is off limits, though. For every two consumers you might lose, perhaps one will pony up $9.99 a month to have access to all their "virtual networks."

There's no power in numbers here, Facebook is proving that.

That said, it's refreshing to see someone make a simple point, once in awhile. Nice job.
  By JeffBach | Stoughton, WI May 4, 2009 12:18:06 pm:
It could be that I am missing something simple, or maybe I'm a true doofus hillbilly, but at the moment I cannot see why implementing an upload fee for UGC and implementing a viewing fee are such bad ideas for Youtube.
1 - An upload fee would give immediate revenue.
2 - An upload fee would cut down on the frivolous uploaders of cat puking videos and so reduce bandwidth costs.
3 - An upload fee would decrease the amount of content against which no one advertises. Not sure how much. I am assuming that serious video producers would still pay to upload and would be creating more advert-friendly content.
4 - A monthly, weekly or daily viewing fee would also bring immediate revenue. This could also lessen the importance of advertising.
5 - Google/YT could usher in a new era of micropayments based on using their already existing Google Checkout code. Yes, this could require some modifying, but it would begin to use another one of their in-house assets.
6 - Google/YT could lead the way into showing the rest of the world how to make money off of online video!

So what if their use drops off! If I were YT I would be happy to make some amount of $$ off a smaller user base rather than my current half billion loss off a huge user base. The users that go elsewhere become someone else's zero revenue problem.
  By craigcooper | craigcooper.com, NY May 4, 2009 12:47:39 pm:
Very good article.

When it all collapses, it'll fall faster than Wall Street.

I'm no Harvard MBA but giving out mortgages to people with bad credit seemd like a dumb idea to me.

Starting a business without any idea how to make money from it never sounded too swift either.

Until then, I'll keep chuckling at dogs on skateboards for free.
  By mondogrande | Ft Lauderdale, FL May 4, 2009 12:48:05 pm:
It is very hard to make money from a business that was not built from the ground up with a profitable business plan. The companies mentioned have all put "the cart before the horse."

A large portion of the younger social media crew believe everything on the interent should be free. Changing their mindset will be difficult if not impossible.

http://www.proudtoliveinamerica.com
  By havevoicewillbabble | Austin, TX May 4, 2009 12:59:30 pm:
I agree there is far to much "trash" on YT, and some fee might dissuade some of the useless tripe. YT is a great concept, but will eventually fall/fail by the weight of zillions of mindless posts leaving the ones worth watching no where to go except back to their websites.

tic, tic, tic.
  By thirdstreet | MANHATTAN BEACH, CA May 4, 2009 01:54:52 pm:
Come on folks, have you ever sat down and read any "tweets?" I looked over Yahoo's recommended top 10 (or was it 20?) Twitterers and was bored by their tweets in about 10 seconds flat. Even Tina Fey, Rainn Wilson and Ellen fail to amuse with only 140 characters to spare.

Why is our economy failing? Gee I dunno, but I'm sure someone on Twitter has the answer.
  By pshoulahan | SAN DIEGO, CA May 4, 2009 02:45:05 pm:
Simon,

Love the article. It's spot on. The only problem with upload fees or putting banners and pop-ups on Twitter or YouTube is that the masses (no pun intended) will flee. They started as a free site and that's how we think of them now.

YouTube and Twitter never had a revenue model from the start and that will be their downfall. That is why we started www.AdJack.tv, and yes we have a revenue model built into the website.

From a user's perspective, it's a fun site to view their favorite commercials and interact with their favorite brands. For an advertiser, it's a clean permission based site for them to market and gather real untarnished demographic data on our user's habits. Oh, by the way, the analytical data and click through are currently free to the advertiser and the advertiser sets the spending limit and cap for their ad campaign.

If the VC world out of love with Twitter and YouTube, send them our way. We have a working revenue model and they won't be just throwing money into the collection basket.

Thanks,

Patrick Houlahan
VP Business Development
www.AdJack.tv
  By shermanfoundation | New York, NY May 4, 2009 04:46:29 pm:
Participation = Destruction (1 Billion Internet Users, The Tyranny of the Masses and the Death of Digital Culture)
http://theshermanfoundation.blogspot.com/2009/05/tyranny-of-masses-1-billion-internet.html

""The common championed belief is that digital tools and technology will democratize creativity, give voice and presence to individuals and enable the formation of communities around niche interests and points of view. The only indisputable observation one can make is how powerfully destructive these new technologies have been to traditional industries and social structures. Any claim to their ability to construct new and better alternatives would be premature. I am being to question, particularly as populist participation grows, whether modes of digital and virtual interaction tend toward a spirit of sharing and cooperation or are better suiting to pursuing self-interest and a tendency to devolve into squabble and antagonism. The biggest problems with comment threads is that they quickly stray off topic and devolve in precisely this manner. ""
  By INFOCUSSelling | Indianapolis, IN May 4, 2009 11:53:05 pm:
So nice to see this in print. I've been preaching this for over a year that a revenue model is required for this to continue. At least the prior versions had revenue models--you had to by a CB radio and FCC license and then you have to subscribe to AOL to get instant messaging (both were said to be the end all for future social interaction in their day...and both are now...gone!). At some point, you must be able to make money. But what do I know, I'm just a professional sales trainer, lifelong business owner, and doctoral student in business. Maybe I am wrong about needing income at some point in a business.
  By DAVID | SAN PEDRO, CA May 5, 2009 11:23:52 am:
Or... "Look!" The emperor is naked...!" Great article.
  By ejacks | Los Angeles, CA May 5, 2009 11:28:52 am:
great article. it really distills down the simple facts of what's going on in the world of social media. It also shows that there's still some resistance to having people pay for something, which is beyond me. We should all remember the saying, "nothing comes for free," because it's absolutely true.

My company, Vimation (www.vimation.com), has a very simple monetization model for online video, and yet most everyone we meet with wants to go the free route. The pending questions is, "should I pay for bandwidth and be able to make money now, or should I upload to YouTube for free, use their distribution, and then try to make money once I have an audience." All the independent production shops are using these free media outlets to promote their content, but very few are willing to make the investment in the early stages of a project so they have not only a monetization model, but they also have data on who the hell is watching and interacting with their content. They're not going to get that with a free service.

The way to get people to pay for content or an experience is by making it more relevant. If I'm watching content and being served up ads for books I don't want to buy, movies I don't want to see and products I don't use, there's no value in that. With our platform, we use everything we know about a person, we serve up advertising that is not invasive, and the interaction rates are phenomenal with our monetization efforts.

If you're looking for ways to make your content work for you, email me at eric@vimation.com.
  By cks0217 | Chicago, IL May 5, 2009 11:36:13 am:
Twitter is a perfect acquisition for the telecom companies. Extending text mssg packages to include tweets would, um, kill two birds with one stone.
  By partywedo | McMinnville, OR May 5, 2009 11:42:05 am:
At the end of the day... Nothing happens until somebody sells something. Why should these social networks be any different.
Advertising sales can't support and feed us all. Robin hood has a limited supply of Royals to rob.

Those who think that there is a free lunch might find themselves at the soup kitchen some day.

I feel sorry for the investors who are required to feed our social cravings.
I will not ask them to feed my venture with the non-profit business model!
  By marklock | El Cajon, CA May 5, 2009 12:27:24 pm:
As the founder of a non-profit for over a decade I get this. Many start-ups today are really non-profits that just have a different legal structure.

I am not a tax expert, but given the tax bracket many VC's belong to, there may be better tax advantages to a failed investment than a charitable contribution.

Fewer Non-[rofit start-ups fail than profit based start-ups because they are typically fueled by leaders passionate for their cause who can typically find donors equally interested in supporting the cause. Shaping culture can be terribly satisfying, more so than any profit. It may be some VC's are looking for more than profits in backing these launches.
  By Rodney33 | FRISCO, TX May 5, 2009 12:45:19 pm:
I opened my iPhone and saw a Tweet from Jack Welch

http://twitter.com/jack_welch

It said - Whoops! That's Italian in Chicago

I thought about if for a minute and decided to go to his Twitter page. Maybe I took this out of context. After further inspection, it appeared to me that he just made a joke about Italians in Chicago.

This is a man who I always had a little compassion for. He went through a messy divorce, his personal finances and dirty laundry were all laid out in the WSJ for the world to see. He was joked about on Letterman, Leno and all over the internet. But when I read the Italian reference, it made me a little mad. So I quipped back to Jack on Twitter - "Dry cleaning. That's free when your Jack Welch. My family is Italian from Chicago. I have a whole book of Jack Welch jokes."

The Dry Cleaning reference is based on reports that his retirement package from GE includes among other ridicules things as his dry cleaning. This is a day when corporate CEOs are getting called out for having private jets. He responded back, "Thanks so much. Which is your favorite?" (joke). I figured, today is Cinco De Mayo so I Twitted back, "Cinco De Nero. Mexico renamed today in honor of Jack Welch hoping he would stop by in his retirement jet to revive the economy."

No response yet from Jack. So goes the Twitter world.

Rodney Mason
CMO, Moosylvania
The Great State Of Design
www.moosylvania.com
  By sportsbizguy | NY, NY May 5, 2009 12:48:20 pm:
Simon,
Bravo-- Dead on again. I ask everyone who thinks that subscription models or upload/download fees will produce revenue to remember that one of the horrible efficiencies of digital social interaction and communication products-- actually anything available for sale or use through the Internet-- is that one company's profit center is another's loss-leader. So I expect there will always be someone offering "unsustainably" free stuff.

David Langan
www.gcgames.com
  By tsmuse | Seattle, WA May 5, 2009 12:56:58 pm:
While I agree 100% that these services need a revenue model the, the answer of "slap a fee on it" isn't the correct one. The strength of these sites is their power to give any one a platform to broadcast from, and that's why they're popular. It's exactly the ability to upload a video of your cat puking, or tweet about the person at the end of the bar that is driving this massive audience. If you simple added an upload fee to youTube (or the earlier suggested combo upload and viewing fee) or a subscription fee to twitter you're fundamentally changing the service. Moving the model from the current "social media" model back into the paid media model we're all used to. While this may be the easiest solution, it's also the lazy solution, and my guess isn't that you'd "sell one account for $9.99 for every two you'd lose" but that you'd sell one account for $9.99 for ever two hundred you'd lose. To simply try and apply the revenue models that worked for TV or radio or print media to this new media is ridiculous and ignores that fact that when any of those media were new the previous media's revenue model had to be modified to fit the new. It hasn't worked with display advertising (banner ads) and it won't work with 30 second spots tapped to a web video. The answer is out there, and instead of goading the people who believe the way to make money off these services is out there into pulling their money back, perhaps we could all spend the brain power trying to solve the problem at hand, because whoever cracks it is going to be richer than any of us can imagine.
  By jdavidknepper | Plant City, FL May 5, 2009 01:05:31 pm:
Good article, except for the writer's insulting Sarah Palin. What did the Governor ever do to you, Simon?
  By jestebanc | Prosper, TX May 5, 2009 01:31:12 pm:
Question for AdAge:

Does including the words "Twitter", "YouTube", and "Facebook" in the title increase pageviews? I'm assuming the answer is yes. Does it increase comments? It seems like it.

So good job. Somebody's monetizing :)

Susan Boyle has a lot to learn. Or maybe she's ok just being a singing megastar from a village(s).

http://www.socialnerdia.com
  By Rodney33 | FRISCO, TX May 5, 2009 02:11:55 pm:
Simon,

You're known as the "Media Guy." If you're going to write about social media and where it's heading, you need to become known as the "Trust Guy." Social Media builds Trust. A currency that old media cannot deliver. There are plenty of dollars and smarts in the world who understand the value of Trust. That's why Facebook and Twitter have a future and old media doesn't. That's why it's rumored today that Apple is in talks with Twitter.

http://blogs.barrons.com/techtraderdaily/2009/05/05/apple-to-buy-twitter-and-electronic-arts/

Apple set to buy Twitter for £460m?
The only question is: would it be called Twapple?

Apple (AAPL) has nearly $29 billion in cash and securities piled up, and the total rises every day. Could they be preparing to go on a shopping spree? While history would suggest otherwise - the company has zero history of making large acquisitions - the rumor mill today has the company in two theoretical deals.

Valleywag writes today that the company is close to buying Twitter for as much as $700 million. The blog asserts that "A source who's plugged into the Valley's deal scene and has been recruited by Apple for a senior position says Apple and Twitter are in serious negotiations, with the goal of unveiling a deal by June 8, when Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference launches in San Jose." I might point out that the WWDC is not in San Jose, it is in San Francisco, as usual.

Rodney Mason, CMO
Moosylvania
The Great State Of Design
www.moosylvania.com
  By DMOSS | Buffalo Grove, IL May 5, 2009 03:09:52 pm:
Every company wants instant ROI figures but there's no way to quantify the value of word-of-mouth. Companies like Starbucks, CNN, the NFL, Dell, etc. should takle a hard look at the number of mentions they get on Tweets. That's FREE ADVERTISING. If the corporations don't want to loose Twitter's organic ad space they should pony up a few $K in marketing funds to Twitter - a penny a #starbucks mention?
  By DMOSS | Buffalo Grove, IL May 5, 2009 03:27:11 pm:
BTW Yahoo has only itself to blame for the implosion of GeoCities. They failed to maintain the user interface and improve accessibility. It was clumsy to use, easy to get locked out of and didn't change with new technology.
  By albyfleugzeug | Monaco May 5, 2009 05:40:01 pm:
The component technologies of twitter, youtube, facebook et al will form the basis for useful collaboration and networked marketing for the future. They just may not live as ad supported business models, or even subscriptions to achieve their networked effects they need. But, then again, people are really tired of ads because of the manipulative vacuous junk they became, and Mad Av has nobody to blame but themselves for that. Very disrespectful of the dignity of the 'consumer'.

Maybe these social networks are really 'public goods', that little remembered or studied chapter in econ class.

The railroads used to be private businesses, but failed as public transportation and had to go to state provision as public goods. These services may be public goods in nature, necessary for the way we do business and communicate today, and perhaps should be supported by some kind of public trust like PBS. Open source is a great way to do this today for this kind of infrastructure stuff.

Lots of networked type infrastructures can't make it as private businesses, DARPA and the Federal Highways are good examples. Private toll roads went out of biz a long time ago. British Rail privatized railroads in the 1990s and now have the highest accident rate in Europe. Even long-distance had to be a monopoly to get built with AT&T. Even MCI was built for US government DOD by private investors yes, but cronies to Congressmen and Generals who got promised their monopoly powers they enjoyed for a long time, and then they even got AT&T divestiture and de-reg in the 80s so they could compete with Ma Bell in Long distance. DOD monopoly wasn't good enough for them. Which congressmen where friends and family shareholders in that IPO?

Going to the telcos is a really bad idea because they are unregulated monopolies now and provide terrible terrible service. They would wreck twitter, facebook et al and why should they get their hands on something they never could have built themselves???

Twitter and Facebook should come up with value added services that they can charge for for a certain tiered audiences, or businesses for closed collaboration or community networks who will pay, like LinkedIn or LINUX did.

That will take ingenuity on their part, but I trust them more than I trust any telco today who all enjoy monopoly, duopoly or 'weak' competition privileges and provide lousy service stifling innovation in the whole industry and pushing the US down in the global rankings for preparedness for innovation. Check out http://www.itif.org/index.php?id=226 to see what happens with monopolies, duopolies and 'weak' competition in telcoms.
  By ssset | Berlin May 5, 2009 06:17:31 pm:
In my opinion the typical ideas about monetizing twitter - in a bad, destroying way - are totally off: paying monthly fees or $9.95 for opening an account, planning cash flows with phone companies, allowing any kind of banner or app being displayed randomly... all wrong.
I'm sure the people who are curious and open minded, who are fed with information and inspiration by following the right people - are more than willing to pay/donate some money freely with an amount of their choice to keep twitter alive. I definitely would do so.
Though I'm not saying that all innovative approaches to create brand communication inside twitter should be banned - but twitter isn't supposed to be overtaken by cheap random and annoying banners. Cause then twitter is dead faster than you can tweet.
  By gumption | WOODINVILLE, WA May 6, 2009 01:35:46 pm:
Interesting and provocative article - and comments! A nice continuation of Simon's sobering commentary on Ashton Kutcher's "achievement" of 1 million Twitter followers (http://adage.com/mediaworks/article?article_id=136049).

I like albyfleugzeug's allusions to historical precedents ... and wonder if there is a case to be made for a Web 2.0 complement to PBS ... perhaps PNS (the Public Narrowcasting Service).

I also like ssset's comments, and wonder whether something like Flickr or LinkedIn's "professional" level memberships - for which they charge a nominal fee in return for added features not available to non-paying members - would work in this context.

For that matter, I wonder if PBS - which is [also] suffering from what seems like a growing conviction among some segments of the U.S. population that "information wants to be free" - could benefit from a revised revenue model.
  By TrysterosEmpire | Springfield, CA May 6, 2009 05:17:47 pm:
They will certainly find a way to monetize. Remember, we are still in the infancy of this phenomenon. Just three years ago social media marketing wasn't taken seriously, today it is essential for every major brand. A company that defines the way that 200 million people communicate on a daily basis will figure out a way to make money. Maybe Mark Zuckerberg is an idealistic socialist that cares nothing about money, but these venture capitalists sure do.
  By roger151 | Auckland May 7, 2009 01:37:07 am:
Here's the maths. We've done this and another company I know did as well.

Take one million free users = revenue equal zero. Costs high. Profitability verrry negative. VC excitement level high.

Impose a charge on those users ($4.99 per month) and you lose 98% of them. Total user base 20,000. Total revenue $1,200,000 million. Costs moderate. Profitability about $200,000. VC interest -- Nil!

I'm sure Facebook, Twitter and all, don't want a revenue model at all, because they would be a different propositions they lost 90+% of users.
  By David | MedellĂ­n May 7, 2009 07:57:29 am:
They could try the wikipedia model. Donate! Or take a look at Vimeo's Honda Let It Shine (http://vimeo.com/honda and play the commercial -not the behind the scenes- and see what happens). I'm pretty sure that wasn't for free.

Services like YT & FB could offer special services for companies... not simple channels / fan pages with no added value, but really cool special features for a monthly fee.
  By Lisa | Boston, MA May 12, 2009 11:57:46 am:
As someone who uses Twitter and works for a company that has helped Radio increase their online revenue by as much as 325% especially in small market stations, I believe that creating revenue is simple, companies like Twitter and You Tube have to analyze what their users are willing to deal with when it comes to advertisements. The creators have been able to develop these amazing systems, one would assume they would have the knowledge to make it profitable.
  By keepleftnyc | new york, NY June 29, 2009 08:16:36 am:
I heard that one of the main venture capitalists used to sit on the board of InQtel which works with the CIA. From InQtel's website: "In-Q-Tel. Accelerating Innovation for the Intelligence Community."

Also - In the user agreement it states that facebook will gather information about you from other sources including newspapers, blogs, & instant messaging services.
  By jkrawl | Chicago, IL July 30, 2009 05:00:29 pm:
This article will provide good "coffee table" talk among all of us techy & business minded people for years. What I have come to realize is that there are valid arguments on both sides of the fence and that this issue boils down to what the company's primary objective is and what they feel is more important.

Now, what most people fail to understand is that FaceBook, YouTube, & Twitter were never created or even intended to be a business or revenue generating platform. The initial reason for the Web 2.0 and Social Media Push was to provide a means for the average internet user to freely generate & monitor the content on the World Wide Web. The internet would not be controlled by companies or the search engines, but by the common people or the prevalent culture.

Unfortunately, this idealconcept will eventually backfire if they don't find an ROI model! We must honestly admit that the cost of maintaining these FREE services with their huge amounts of information & media is overwhelmingly high!

In addition to this, I haven't see the internet really evolving in any manner that's beneficial to society, other than seeing more worthless, nonsensical crap on these sites that do nothing but pull us further backwards creatively and morally.

So, with that being said, I totally agree w/ Simon that these social platforms need to come up with a revenue generating model quickly or they'll fall by their own hands.

Frank
http://www.absrocketpro.com
  By virtualagency | LA, CA August 12, 2009 03:01:03 pm:
With no business plan (according to "biz stoner" and no exit strategy...

is Twitter just another CIA - NSA black ops global surveillance project designed to keep tabs on people and waste more time for people who have too much time on their hands anyway?

Is Union Square a CIA cutout like q?

Any inside dope is welcome...
  By BPoston | Raleigh, NC August 18, 2009 09:12:40 pm:
It would be nice to think that youtube, twitter and the like are here to stay forever, especially if you're investing using these tools to market your business. But as was mentioned about Geo-Cities, all good (and not so good) things come to an end. Some much sooner than others if the cash is not there.
Hey, maybe they can ask for a bailout - everyone else seems to be :-)

Ben
http://www.howtobuildgolfclubs.com
  By gmiddleton | Indiana, PA August 19, 2009 09:41:44 am:
Simon,

Great article! I guess its easy to take for granted using services like YouTube, or Twitter, when it doesn't cost us a dime to do so. So often people forgot that bills and payrolls need to be paid on time every month and we're quick to jump on the newest and hottest Social-Media network (does anyone remember MySpace?). It will be interesting to see where the next 3-5 years will take us...

Best,

Gaston
http://www.Ultimate-Resell-Rights.com
  By jimi_R | New York, NY August 25, 2009 12:38:26 am:
A large portion of the younger social media crew believe everything on the internet should be free. Changing their mindset will be difficult if not impossible.

jim
  By jimi_R | New York, NY August 25, 2009 01:06:01 am:
A large portion of the younger social media crew believe everything on the internet should be free. Changing their mindset will be difficult if not impossible.

Redmond
http://www.buildingmaintenanceoftoday.com/
  By kablyden | Huntersville, NC August 26, 2009 10:33:36 am:
Wow... With the market crash in the late 90's fueled by the devalueing of over priced overhyped Internet stock... you'd think lessons were learned... Back then we also had VC( Venture Charities... I like that :-) ) funding and propping up the value of internet start ups way beyond their ability to create revenue ... It seems like the more things change, the more things stay the same. Twitter is facing the same issue that so many other internet based companies are facing...How to monetize their traffic/clients... In the social media space on the internet people like things for free. There is so much free stuff out there that we are almost conditioned to expect not to have to pay for these services... Hopefully they will find a solution to this problem.. It would be a shame to lose them...

Kirschan
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  By jassie_wu08 | Brisbane August 27, 2009 09:52:06 am:
YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook are just my favorites and grateful that these are for free and will remain for free. The thought of having them to end just scares me and that would surely be boring. Well, I'm faithful that they can do something about this!

Jassie
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  By Adil123 | Karachi, SI October 7, 2009 09:35:49 am:
Hi, totally agree with DMOSS. No one can calculate the worth of word of mouth. Its free but most effective in its own way.
Nice post, keep it up.

Business Plan Writers
  By Adil123 | Karachi, SI October 7, 2009 09:38:04 am:
Hi jimi_R ,

You are right , its almost imposible to chage thier mind set.

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