"It's frustrating because I know what Reddit is and I know the
positive impact it has on people's lives," Huffman says. "But I
also know that the company has been through a lot and we haven't
been very effective at what we do and why we do it."
Huffman says Reddit has been deliberately quiet about fighting
hate groups on the site ("They thrive on attention," he argues),
but has been in the fight nonetheless. "Take the events that
happened in Charlottesville," he says, referring to the clashes
between white supremacists and counter-protesters in Virginia last
month. "Facebook, Google had to ban a lot of groups that we banned
a year ago. We've been on the front lines with these sorts of
questions and debates for years now."
Yet if Reddit wants a chunk of the $73 billion digital ad
market, it has to not only put forward a neighborly face but build
its relations with agencies from virtually nothing. Many media
buyers say they're unaware that Reddit shows ads only on
"whitelisted" sections where thriving communities exist and the
chances of anything unsavory popping up are vastly diminished. And
you can't blame them for not knowing. Asked whether Reddit has
staff whose sole job is to build bridges with agencies, Huffman
says, "Yes-ish."
"I'm 90 percent certain we do," he adds. "We had a handful of
people doing that as a tactic as part of their job."
In reality, Reddit doesn't have anything remotely close to the
outreach teams employed by Google, Facebook or even many
publishers. Those outfits have poached savvy executives from the
"buy side" of advertising—agencies, marketers and ad-tech
purveyors catering to buyers—to drum up business. Huffman
admits Reddit doesn't have enough employees like that, but says
it's hiring similar people on both coasts to "cultivate
senior-level management at agencies."
Part of that new $200 million will fund adding 50 staffers to
its roster of 250, and the company just signed a lease in "Silicon
Beach" in Santa Monica, California, to house more employees. "The
extra capital and having a full team will allow us to do things
that, frankly, weren't on the table for us before," Huffman says.
"We can play a lot more offense than we have in the past and
attract more market share, attack things we've previously put on
the back burner."
That includes going after Google's YouTube through a scheme to
tap Reddit's legion of highly engaged regulars to create videos.
Reddit will eventually explore running pre-roll and interruptive
ads in video, sharing revenue with makers, but is waiting to fully
roll out its video tools and make sure it's got the user experience
right, Huffman says.
Reddit brags that it has 330 million monthly active users, up 40
percent from a year earlier, which is slightly ahead of the 328
million Twitter recently reported but far behind YouTube's 1.5
billion. Strikingly, Reddit says it's aiming for 1 billion, a
figure that sounds more aspirational than in arm's reach. Expanding
users is vital to the ad pitch because "Redditors" are fragmented
across the whitelisted subreddits. The gaming area has nearly 17
million subscribers with tens of thousands active at any given
time. "Daddit," on fatherly things, has 69,000 subscribers, with
only 1,400 or so on at a given time.
All of which puts a lot of pressure on the impending redesign.
Visitors seeking the latest theories about "Game of Thrones," for
example, can get lost in the Netscape-era design—a river of
headlines with small images, spartan navigation tabs such as "top"
and "wiki," and a top row of smaller labels including "funny" and
"todayilearned."
"I think I'm allowed to shit on it because I made it," Huffman
says of the current desktop site, the source of about 80 percent of
Reddit's traffic. "The redesign will have a lot of tactical
features like giving people their own home on Reddit so they can
create their own communities and audiences, and maybe find a way to
fit in with other communities." Search will get an overdue upgrade.
And moderators will also get tools to customize the look of
subreddits and convene discussions more easily.
That will help convert "drive-by" web surfers into devoted
users—in theory. Huffman says the numbers already show
"strong signs of life," and that eventually reaching 1 billion
users would enable unrivaled targeting and engagement.
Face of the
internet
Huffman is known for taking playful shots at Ohanian. They met as
freshman hall mates at the University of Virginia, roomed together
the next year and founded Reddit as seniors in 2005. Asked about
Ohanian's relationship with Williams, one of the top celebrities in
sports, Huffman says, "As his college buddy who knew him when he
had a literal neckbeard, I continue to be amused by the whole
situation."
But Ohanian, 35, has a serious part to play in making Reddit the
business many people think it could become. The company, which is
majority owned by Condé Nast parent Advance Communications,
declines to say whether it is profitable, though signs suggest that
it isn't where it wants to be. "Alexis' job is to evangelize
Reddit," says Huffman, who is 34 and recently returned from his
ninth Burning Man excursion. "He is very charming and comfortable
in front of an audience. We have him in a role right now that is
playing to his strengths."
In the last year, Ohanian has spoken at high-profile events,
appeared on ABC's "Jimmy Kimmel Live" and NPR's "How I Built This,"
and gone to the Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity
as judges considered the company's first entry into the awards, for
a Secret Santa gift exchange on Reddit sponsored by FedEx.
(Williams, his fiancée, has done her part, posting video of
their baby on Reddit this month using Reddit's new built-in video
uploading tool.)
Ohanian says Reddit has unique advantages such as rich data on
users who are easily targeted by interests and eager to engage.
"The discussion and conversations on Reddit are our lifeblood and
where the best content is," he says. "And that applies to our ads,
where we have ad campaigns that actually get engagement in minutes
and not seconds."
In addition to FedEx, brands including Amazon, Coca-Cola, Toyota
and Halo Top are buying in. Halo Top CEO Justin Woolverton says
he's been a longtime Reddit user—so much so that in the
company's early days, Woolverton had "TL;DR: Ice Cream You Can Feel
Good Eating" printed on the bottom of his pint cups. "I was so
proud of the TL;DR because I was a Redditor," he says. "I was like,
'Man, no package has a TL:DR' ... but we eventually got rid of it
because it wasn't cool anymore."
For non-users, though, Reddit can still be intimidating,
Woolverton allows. "It can be like, 'Where is my comment, what are
these upvotes and downvotes?' Knowing Reddit made me feel more
comfortable to say, 'Hey, let's put money into this.'"