Growing up in Montana in the shadow of Glacier National Park, Jenn Rogien -- who calls herself a true "Rocky Mountain girl" -- could never have been prepared for the Brooklyn hipster aesthetic she's helped carve out on HBO's hit series "Girls." In fact, she never could have predicted she'd become a costume designer.
Ms. Rogien headed east after high school, accepted into Yale as a chemical engineering major. She had always been convinced she'd be well suited for the sciences. There was an underlying passion she had for theatre, however -- she often sneaked off to the set of the latest production when she should have been doing her homework -- and Ms. Rogien fell in love with the environment at the Yale drama department. They hired professional costume designers and students to serve as assistant designers, which gave her the first glimpse of costume design as a full-time career. Out of school, she got a job at Saks Fifth Avenue, which gave her the basis she needed to study further at Parsons School of Design before breaking into the TV world.
She chatted with us about what it's been like working on "Girls" with Lena Dunham, Allison Williams and the other actors, and gave us a taste of what to expect from the costumes on the new show she's working on, the Netflix original series "Orange is the New Black."
Ad Age: You are one among an elite group of costume designers who have really broken out and begun to create a brand for yourself. How does one get into costume design for TV, and what's the appetite for this field right now -- is it healthy?
Jenn Rogien: I think it's becoming more recognized and there are more and more people interested in getting in costume design. There's so much interest in the show and inquiries I'm seeing via my personal website. There's a lot more interest in what people are wearing in general and watching what Kate Middleton is wearing or what Kim Kardashian is wearing, and, what your favorite character is wearing on your favorite show. It's different than fashion design and editorial styling -- and I think it's great for there to be another option out there.
Ad Age: You've worked on movies and on other TV shows like "The Good Wife" and "Lipstick Jungle." How's the "Girls" experience been different?
Ms. Rogien: In some ways it's a lot the same. It's definitely costume design -- starting from the script, getting the characters off the page, working with the actors and collaborating with the directors. One of the ways it's been very different is that the show has its own rules and I mean that in the best possible way. One of those rules is that not everyone has to look great on TV, which is a big paradigm shift.
One of the reasons people have loved TV is that everyone does look good.... Audiences have looked to leading ladies to look great and have great clothes and hair. But "Girls" has a very strong current of realism that makes it both challenging and liberating.
To shake off a little bit of the "Good Wife"-fairy dust did take me a minute to gear-down and realize that it was okay to be looser. And that part of the way to reflect where the "Girls" characters are in their lives and reflect the decisions they are making and experiences they are having is to loosen the wardrobe.
Ad Age: Do you see any brand integration possibilities -- like, for example, what happened with "Mad Men" and Banana Republic creating a line of clothing based around the way some characters dress? If so, what brands would you think would be appropriate fits with the show?
Ms. Rogien: I don't know. Oof. I wouldn't say no, but that would be more of an HBO question.
Ad Age: In dressing the Hannah character, do you have to take into consideration how much she takes her clothes off? How has impacted your dressing decisions for her?
Ms. Rogien: I think very carefully about any scene in which an actor manipulates wardrobe. Whether putting on a coat, getting dressed or disrobing on camera, I consider the emotional and logistical impact of the costume pieces. I try to ensure that the wardrobe supports the character and the emotion in the scene. Should it be funny? Should it be upsetting? Should it be sexy? I also make sure the wardrobe doesn't distract from what's happening in the scene, cause sound issues or take too long to put on or take off.
Ad Age: There was a fun moment in one episode this season where Marnie is interviewing for a position at an art gallery (the boss being Lena Dunham's mother) and she is asked where her suit is from and Marnie replies "Ann Taylor." That's obviously meant to reflect something about her personality right?
Ms. Rogien: Ironically the suit she's wearing is not actually from Ann Taylor! That line was ad-libbed on the day. We went after a suit that Marnie might have picked, and knowing that picking a suit was the exact wrong thing for an interview at an art gallery. It's an off choice... and it's meant to reflect where we all are when we are 25. I'm sure that's Lena and Allison's complete brilliance in the moment; and it's a realistic store for Marnie to consider.